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transdebates [2025/05/07 02:40] fe80:e893:fae6:4bcb:fd63:4240:ca27:1351transdebates [2025/05/26 01:17] (current) – [If I have to allow people to identify as any gender, then I have to anyone to identify as animals/other objects] fe80:4c95:eb05:4241:38cb:0100:e99f:9deb
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 ==== What is the definition of (woman/man)? ==== ==== What is the definition of (woman/man)? ====
-TODO 
  
 +The correct response is "A woman is someone who identifies as a woman".
  
 +Sometimes, people reject this statement and claim it's a circular definition and not valid. 
  
 +However, it isn't a circular definition, because of use-mention distinction in philosophy:
  
 +A woman (use case) is someone who identifies as a woman (mention case)
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 +Some say sex is based on the gametes someone produces. However, there's people who do not produce them.
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 +The counter-argument is that that someone should be male or female, based on what their body "should do".
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 +Bodies are not teleological however, are aren't "meant" to produce female or male gametes. They just are. There are people who produce both gametes too.
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 +Thus, sex is not binary, and there isn't a way to group people into "man" and "woman".
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 +https://kim-hipwell.medium.com/why-gamete-production-does-not-define-sex-ae80eb67c379
  
 ==== "We can always tell when someone is transgender" ==== ==== "We can always tell when someone is transgender" ====
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 Security guard kicked cis-women out of bathroom, as he thought she wasn't a women https://web.archive.org/web/20250506170851/https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/06/boston-hotel-bathroom-same-sex-couple Security guard kicked cis-women out of bathroom, as he thought she wasn't a women https://web.archive.org/web/20250506170851/https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/06/boston-hotel-bathroom-same-sex-couple
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 +==== It’s unsafe for trans women to use the women’s bathroom ====
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 +No evidence was found that trans women using bathroom increases safety concerns. 
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 +More importantly, studies have reported trans and non-binary youth  are at higher risk for sexual assault when not using the bathroom they identify with. 
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 +https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/143/6/e20182902/76816/School-Restroom-and-Locker-Room-Restrictions-and?redirectedFrom=fulltext
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 +https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Trans-Bathroom-Access-Feb-2025.pdf
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 +==== If I have to allow people to identify as any gender, then I have to anyone to identify as animals/other objects ====
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 +This is a known as a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope|Slippery Slope fallacy]] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt4f7QrfRRc). 
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 +This is unrelated to addressing a person's preferred gender and name.
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 +If you run the argument backwards to as "not allow", then you can run into a bad conclusion too.
 +While the argument is valid form, it's not sound. 
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